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Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20653]

Mon, 30 March 2009 11:17

h3l1
Messages: 28
Registered: August 2006
Location: Innsbruck, Austria

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Hi there,

after installing always the latest version of theide, I just think it would be nice to have a file dialog option to choose from the default installation path for upp and the default installation path for myprojects. As upp has such a cool and rich GUI library why isn't it there in the installation tool?

just my 2 cents

Heli

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20877 is a reply to message #20653]

Wed, 15 April 2009 18:17

mirek
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Registered: November 2005

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Because at the moment, U++ widgets are not available... Smile

Smile

But agreed, it should be improved. Any skilled *plain* Win32 programmer around? Smile

Smile

Mirek

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20880 is a reply to message #20877]

Wed, 15 April 2009 18:44

sergeynikitin
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Registered: January 2008
Location: Moscow, Russia

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what about free install tools?
I use Inno-Setup (www.jrsoftware.org).

SergeyNikitin<U++>( linux, wine )
{
under( Ubuntu || Debian || Raspbian );
}

[Updated on: Wed, 15 April 2009 18:44]

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20890 is a reply to message #20880]

Thu, 16 April 2009 05:15

Reini
Messages: 28
Registered: April 2009
Location: Berlin

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Hello U++ Fans,

I am just keeping an eye on U++ since some months and I think now has come the time to contribute a bit Smile

Smile

So to you Mirek I would like to contribute with this topic either in doing an installer with the proposed software Inno Setup or if its really more the prefered way also a "low-level" Win32 API BrowseforFolder approach.

Meanwhile I have inspected the sourcecode for that install routine and it seems to me a bit very "low-level" and deprecated in our times. For me the only reasonable explanation for integrating that so hard coded is reducing download size but not the simplicity and acceptance for the first time user...

Or in other words the professional work behind the scenes and possibilites with U++ are not obvious to a first time user Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

But anyway I would thank you very much for your good work.

I can do several things from coding C++ to documenting or translating in german or even other languages Cool

Cool

For learning purposes I was considering in doing some small monopoly game for my father since he plays sometimes still an rather old version of "Winopoly" which is from 1993 and written in 16 Bit Code Surprised

Surprised

But surprisingly it still runs in Vista...
He asked me several times for a newer version and I looked up on SF but all I found was just crap or too complicated for him compared to that old simple game. Would be also a nice demo on all supported plattforms!

In addition I am thinking to buy a Mac and do some progress in pushing U++ further on the Leopard.

Greetz from Germany

[Updated on: Thu, 16 April 2009 05:19]

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20893 is a reply to message #20890]

Thu, 16 April 2009 11:42

mirek
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Registered: November 2005

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Reini wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 23:15

Hello U++ Fans,

I am just keeping an eye on U++ since some months and I think now has come the time to contribute a bit Smile

Smile

So to you Mirek I would like to contribute with this topic either in doing an installer with the proposed software Inno Setup or if its really more the prefered way also a "low-level" Win32 API BrowseforFolder approach.

Well, one good reason to avoid Inno at this time (besides the fact that I think "wizard style" installers are tedious and slow - what is wrong with fast installation?) is that win32 automated releases get generated in Wine and I am afraid it would not be so easy to control Inno build by bash script...

Mirek

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20898 is a reply to message #20893]

Thu, 16 April 2009 17:11

emr84
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Registered: April 2008
Location: Argentina

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luzr wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 06:42

Well, one good reason to avoid Inno at this time (besides the fact that I think "wizard style" installers are tedious and slow - what is wrong with fast installation?) is that win32 automated releases get generated in Wine and I am afraid it would not be so easy to control Inno build by bash script...

Maybe NSIS (http://nsis.sourceforge.net/)

"NSIS installers are generated by using the 'MakeNSIS' program to compile a NSIS script (.NSI) into an installer executable" (http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Docs/Chapter3.html)

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20899 is a reply to message #20653]

Thu, 16 April 2009 17:50

Reini
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Registered: April 2009
Location: Berlin

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Hello Mirek and others,

Ok now I got a better understanding how this works and why u did it this way. The NSIS Installer is also available as a Linux Binary and could be the best solution since a better installer would be a nice idea for future relases.

Here is a great tutorial for Linux.

Besides what about the Idea to switch the whole build system to CMake ? I am dealing at my work with it and we come pretty good along so far on Windows and FreeBSD.

Greetz

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20906 is a reply to message #20899]

Fri, 17 April 2009 10:35

mirek
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Registered: November 2005

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Reini wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 11:50

Besides what about the Idea to switch the whole build system to CMake ? I am dealing at my work with it and we come pretty good along so far on Windows and FreeBSD.

No way.

But I wonder what exactly you refer to as "build system". TheIDE has its build system, which is tailored for fast and reliable C++/U++ development (package dependencies, BLITZ...).

Then there is Makefile export, mostly to have src releases of applications. Maybe we could use CMake here, OTOH the sole purpose is to get something that you can compile relatively easily; that OTOH is why you want to use the 'lowest' common standard, right?

Mirek

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20907 is a reply to message #20899]

Fri, 17 April 2009 10:36

mirek
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Registered: November 2005

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Reini wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 11:50

Hello Mirek and others,

Ok now I got a better understanding how this works and why u did it this way. The NSIS Installer is also available as a Linux Binary and could be the best solution since a better installer would be a nice idea for future relases.

One way or another, there is quite a lot of work involved installing something like that as compare to simply fixing the installer package.

(Fixing installer -> everything will work out of box next evening).

Mirek

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20909 is a reply to message #20907]

Fri, 17 April 2009 14:06

Reini
Messages: 28
Registered: April 2009
Location: Berlin

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Anyway I understand your way of simplicity and stuff.

But on the long hand there must be a better solution for the install way.

If you wish I can do the patch for the BrowseforFolder Option in the Installer and meanwhile I try to figure out a better way on handling that automatically.

Concerning the build system is it possible to build applications only with that libs needed in this particular program ?

For eaxmple if I use only TopWindow I don't need the whole CtrlLib in my Application.

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20911 is a reply to message #20909]

Fri, 17 April 2009 14:54

mirek
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Registered: November 2005

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Reini wrote on Fri, 17 April 2009 08:06

Concerning the build system is it possible to build applications only with that libs needed in this particular program ?

That is the point.

Quote:

For eaxmple if I use only TopWindow I don't need the whole CtrlLib in my Application.

Then use just CtrlCore.

Mirek

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20948 is a reply to message #20911]

Mon, 20 April 2009 16:40

Reini
Messages: 28
Registered: April 2009
Location: Berlin

Promising Member

Hello Mirek and others,

Finally I have done a small Function in Win32 API for Browsing Folders. Cool

Cool

I will post it here as Attachment and will ask Mirek for including it in the next Release. I am not quite sure at the moment how to place it correctly in the upp Structure. I've seen there is a

install.cpp

where it should fit into.

Could you test that and integrate it Mirek ?

Thx so far

Attachment: FolderBrowse.c
(Size: 1.48KB, Downloaded 525 times)

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #20994 is a reply to message #20948]

Fri, 24 April 2009 11:38

mirek
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Registered: November 2005

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Reini wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 10:40

Hello Mirek and others,

Finally I have done a small Function in Win32 API for Browsing Folders. Cool

Cool

I will post it here as Attachment and will ask Mirek for including it in the next Release. I am not quite sure at the moment how to place it correctly in the upp Structure. I've seen there is a

install.cpp

where it should fit into.

Could you test that and integrate it Mirek ?

Thx so far

OK, using that code, I have added "Browse" button.

Mirek

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #21044 is a reply to message #20994]

Tue, 28 April 2009 12:32

Reini
Messages: 28
Registered: April 2009
Location: Berlin

Promising Member

Will try the nightly build Wink

Wink

Another suggestion for the Install stuff.

I stumbled upon an interesting project called lzpack which does small packed installers that work cross platform.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/izpack

Would that be a possible solution to simplify the installer and packaging process ?

Reini

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #21057 is a reply to message #21044]

Wed, 29 April 2009 11:16

andrei_natanael
Messages: 262
Registered: January 2009

Experienced Member

It's not truly portable, it need Java Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

What we want is to have an installer which run native on OS without any requirements. I think current installer(with Browse button) is quite good for Windows and Linux/Unix have sources from where to build or debian packages.

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Re: Feature Request: Install Program Needs Filedialogs [message #23775 is a reply to message #20653]

Fri, 20 November 2009 15:27

Reini
Messages: 28
Registered: April 2009
Location: Berlin

Promising Member

Hello Mirek and others,

Lately I revised the code for the Folderbrowse stuff. I added the "Browse for Folder" Button functionality.

I would also like to propose to use this code in the second Install step where the Folder for MyApps can be selected.

Have a nice weekend

Attachment: FolderBrowse.c
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